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self titled
you people defanatly need to realize that
soads self titled album was definatly their
greatest? why? it was the most fucked up!
there is no other soad album that comes close
to matching the personality and style that
fits into soads first album. the drugs were
just flowin throughout that entire album, its
wonderful. every song is like
'blehhhh!!' its fun! its simply the
most fun album i have ever listened to. its
not like new soad where they try to be a
little too popular. even toxcicity, it was
just kinda like 'bleh.....listen to
us...' self title is brilliantly unquie
and will doubtfully be matched by any other
soad album.
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yeah i know! the first was the best! but
hypnotize is supposed to be better than
mezmerize so idk | theflea |
yeah, well mezmerize was supposed to be the
most creative and diverse material that SOAD
has ever released so im not so sure... | SOADfreak |
it was ok but some of the guitar sounded like
some older stuf just redid.......well idk its
soad so ill listen to it anyway! | theflea |
of course self-titled is da best.
thou I like every SOAD song.
thou I adore self-titled.
thou not art human man.
I gonna get some sleep, thou
| dART |
| Drugs are gay. | Mr_Krift |
I actually prefer "Steal This
Album!", but all the same, I
understand the point that SOADFreak is
making. The self-titled had a kind of quirky,
dark sense of humour to it that they
haven't quite achieved since, and it's
a little less polished than
"Toxicity" (and certainly less
so than "Mezmerize".) | spottyslippers |
you hit the nail right on the head good sir.
mr. krift, we are all entitled to our
opinion, but it pisses me off when people go
whining about drugs. there are very few
people out there who whine about people who
dont do drugs, so can you please no whine
about it? its one of the main tools one of
your all time favorite albums were created.
there is no doubt that SOAD were on alot more
drugs back then.
theflea:
you said that alot of it sounds like older
SOAD stuff re-done. this confuses me, for the
self title album is SOADs older stuff. when
you mentioned this, were you talking about
things off Mezmerize or Toxicity, or self
titled? | SOADfreak |
another thing on the drug issue, people say
drugs are gay, but most of them say it on the
account that their parents and teachers told
them so? most of these people have never
actually TRIED a drug, so the dont know how
wonderful it may be(mainly speaking of pot
only, for its less addicting). | SOADfreak |
Good sir? Were you talking to me? I'm a
lady! :-) But thanks.
I'm a bit wary of getting involved in this
drug debate; I'm of conflicting opinions
when it comes to how well an artist on drugs
performs. On one hand, the drugs don't
seem to be harming SOAD, and sometimes the
best musicians are weirdly the ones fuelled
by drugs. If it's not damaging the band,
should it be a major issue?
On the other hand, I disagree with drug use
(I'm straightedge), and they have proved
themselves to be the ruination of a performer
(Pete Doherty, for example. Though I
personally never actually liked his music in
the first place). And, while I wouldn't
condemn anyone for taking drugs, I don't
really think they're necessary.
It's a tough one.
Oh, and please don't say "drugs are
gay". I'm sorry if it sounds as if
I'm being stuck up, but the word
"gay" shouldn't really be
used in a derogatory fashion. So I would
appreciate it if you didn't do it. :)
| spottyslippers |
Jesus, my last post sounded so pretentious.
It's so hard conveying anything
diplomatically over the 'Net. Hopefully
you could kind of figure out what I was
trying to say. | spottyslippers |
i was talking to mr. krift.
and im sorry that you dont like the use of
the word gay, but im still going to use it,
because i think its gay when people take it
too seriously. | SOADfreak |
Ah. Well, I presumed the whole "good
sir" thing was aimed at me, because
you posted straight after mine and then
criticized Mr.Krift for what he'd said
about drugs...but there you go.
I guess I'll just go on taking things
seriously. | spottyslippers |
| righto. | SOADfreak |
Chan, don't bother trying to break
SOADfreak from his homophobic use of
"gay". We have been all
through this on the Green Day forum and he
likes being that way.
It goes along with his racist views. You
know, ppl who are prejudice about one thing
usually are about a lot of things. | GrayBeard |
errr
drugs are gay so wha?
the thing is you shouldn't do them.
| dART |
I wasn't whining. I was stating a fact.
Drugs are gay. | Mr_Krift |
OK, I agree
How are every1 at soadweb? | dART |
well back to the subject i think self titled
is the best album to.Its the only CD from
them that sets a dark yet funny mood to every
songand its the same thing with their live
shows. they use to jump around the stage like
madmen but now they just stand there and
headbang every now and then | PigBenis |
god damnit, i hope that damn graybeard doesnt
come preaching and whining here all the time.
...jesus graybeard, your so
one-dimentional(sp) | SOADfreak |
aside from that issue..
yeah piggy, you even see serj do a stage dive
in the war video. that something SOAD would
never do. | SOADfreak |
Whatsamatter SOADfreak? Don't like ppl
coming to a forum of a band u like and
"whining"??
First, now maybe u understand why the ppl on
the Green Day forum don't like u coming
there and "whining" about how
bad GD is and how vile their fans are.
Second, I like SOAD and stopped by their
forum to see how it was going, not to
"whine" at u. I only posted
that above so that Chan did not waste time
trying to overcome your hate attitude. I
won't be "whining" on this
forum, or saying negative things about the
band or its fans, and I will surely not be
making any hate comments. I talk music on
iSound, not prejudice.
Third, I noticed that your posts on this
forum are quite good. You have some good
points in them and discuss the music & band
really well. I wish ur posts elsewhere on
iSound were the same. | GrayBeard |
hey look, more of one-dimentional graybeard.
seriously, how much hate crap must you preach
to me. i dont care. i dont even start half
the shit in the green day forums, i just pop
up when i feel like it. if i wanted to preach
to you people about green day's hate
attitude towards the government i would, but
i dont because that would make me look like
an idiot(hint hint).
plus, i like discussing things on the green
day forums just as much as i do here, but you
just keep bringing up the topic of gays and
racism so its kind of hard to talk about the
music when you keep interupting it(another
hint) | SOADfreak |
Self-titled = fucking amazing
Toxicity = great but they to be lost between
making fucked up kick ass music and starting
to sell-out and like being on the radio
Steal This Album! = best Rarities CD I've
heard along with NIRVANA's Incesticide
Mezmerize = why only 10 songs (not including
Soldier Side) you bastards? GREAT music but
it shouldn't have taken 4 years to put
this shit out
Hypnotize = my prediction is that it will
contain great songs like Mezmerize with maybe
a little different sound to them? maybe?
| BLASTT |
i have been listening to system since i was
like 12 and i started on their self titled
album. it is definatly the most hardcore,
scare your parents, kick ass music they have
put out. I love all their music but this
album definitly stands out. And it pisses me
off when i talk to people who say they like
system and i ask them their favorite album
and they say either toxicity or mesmerize.
those are both really good albums but people
seem to forget about STEAL THIS ALBUM!!! AND
SELF TITLED. System for life logging out | mirrorinthebathroom |
i would also like to add that grey beard is
obnoxious. people are getting to easily
offended these days. i would also like to add
and his bio will tell you the same that he is
like 51 or somthing. maybe if your getting
offended it is because you don't
understand how "teenagers"
these days use words and what they mean.
leave this site to music and whine somewhere
else | mirrorinthebathroom |
I bought 'Toxicity' for 'Prison
song' and 'Bounce', and I saw the
self tittled album and picked that up at the
same time(I also bought a NIN album[with
teeth]but thats irelevant) I havn't really
had a chance to listen to it though.
'Steal this album' kicks ass, but
'Mezmerize' shouldn't be overlooked. | SlipKnoT_KA |
yeah, you cant expect people to not have
toxicity or mezmerize as a favorite and
automatically think they dont know of st or
sta. toxicity used to be my favorite album,
even when i did have all other albums. s/t
used to be my LEAST favorite soad album
believe it or not, but i am wiser now. | SOADfreak |
Though it's more a matter of opinion than
how wise you are!
The self-titled used to be my least favourite
too, but now it's probably my
second-favourite after "STA!".
I think it must be a "grower",
as they say. | spottyslippers |
"Steal This Album" is by far
the best titled album!!! I mean how much
better "in your face anti
establishment" can they be than title
their album with the command to steal it!!!!
That blew me away the first time I saw it!!!! | GrayBeard |
Oh yeah, just for the record, I will be 52 in
just a few days!!
So consider this: add up all the music u
have listen to, all the "bad
ass" stuff u have done, all the
"hard core" u have experienced,
all the punk/funk or whatever else you are
proud of being part of and experiencing, and
I have done and experienced a WHOLE LOT more
of it.
Like I say in my profile, I was punk BEFORE
there was punk!!!
And I will tell u one thing for sure - there
is a LOT MORE for me to learn about music
from ppl of all ages and backgrounds. | GrayBeard |
grey beard your still just really old to me.
that's all im done | mirrorinthebathroom |
Hey Mirror, ur 16, I'm 52. That makes me
more than THREE TIMES ur age!!
Hell yeah, u should consider me old compare
to you!! I am!!!
So WTF? To be honest with you, when I was 16
I never talked music or anything with anyone
as old as I am now, so your reaction is no
surprise to me.
If u don't want to talk music with me
because of my age, or for any other reason,
that's fine with me.
| GrayBeard |
Hey Mirror, ur 16, I'm 52. That makes me
more than THREE TIMES ur age!!
Hell yeah, u should consider me old compare
to you!! I am!!!
So WTF? To be honest with you, when I was 16
I never talked music or anything with anyone
as old as I am now, so your reaction is no
surprise to me.
If u don't want to talk music with me
because of my age, or for any other reason,
that's fine with me.
| GrayBeard |
i think talking music with a 50 year old
could be a very educational experience. but
not when they talk about green day. | SOADfreak |
Well, it's a sign of a good band if people
of any age can associate with them.
"Steal This Album!" actually
steals its title (ha!) from a book that was
called...wait for it..."Steal This
Book". I don't know much about its
contents, who it's by or when it was
published, but I've seen it described by a
magazine as a "counter-culture
manual" or something similar. Very
SOAD, I thought. | spottyslippers |
Abbie Hoffman wrote "Steal This
Book" in the early 70's. It told
how to live outside the system, something he
did for many years hiding from a cocaine
possesion arrest.
Hoffman was a political activist opposed to
the Vietnam war. He was on of the
"Chicago Seven" dudes that were
charged with causing violent protests at the
1968 Democratic National Convention in
Chicago.
He also wrote a book called "Fuck The
System". | GrayBeard |
Hence the title of the System song.
Thanks for the info? Have you read it, and is
it worth reading? If so, might try looking it
up on Amazon. | spottyslippers |
Sorry, didn't mean to stick a question
mark after "info". | spottyslippers |
And there was supposed to be an
"I" before
"might".
It's going to be one of days, I can tell. | spottyslippers |
| haha | SOADfreak |
Yeah, I read "Steal This Book"
when it came out since it talked about living
underground, and at the time I had an
underground band.
But it wouldn't do you much good to read
it now since the info in it is so dated.
However, it would give you an idea of the
underground movement of the early 70's
timeframe in the states.
There were a LOT of ppl living underground at
the time, mostly ppl avoiding going to
Vietnam or drug use prosecution. They kind
of just "disapeared". | GrayBeard |
That's so interesting. I'm not
surprised System picked up on it. | spottyslippers |
| totally | SOADfreak |
well back to the original subject, yes self
titled is their best! but after that it is
hard to decided between STA or Toxicity. I
think I am leaning more towatds Toxicity. | NAILSS |
The self-titled was probably their best and
original album. It was also their craziest
and applied the Armenian elements to their
music more than any of the others.
But oddly enough, I couldn't stand SOAD
until Mezmerize came out and I heard BYOB for
the first time... | aces_high |
| Mezmerize truly and purly sucks. | SOADfreak |
After the first 11 listens or so to BYOB, it
got shitty really quickly. Hypnotize beat the
crap out of Mezmerize. | aces_high |
i personally think that steak this album was
the most fucked up, but self-titled was
easily better | FattyMcfatfat18 |
I like most songs From Mezmerize, but I first
listened to them at a friends house where he
had like every SOAD song on a playlist set to
shuffle. But remember, Mezmerize and
Hypnotize are a double album, I see them as
ONE album. I actually don't really like
Toxicity anymore, alot of the songs on it
sound very similar. | SlipKnoT_KA |
| yeah they do all sound quite similar | FattyMcfatfat18 |
I hope that their next album will have more
guitar solos. | aces_high |
its true that self titled was their best
albumn | CollisionOfYourKiss |
| I don't think that | SlipKnoT_KA |
and it's all a matter of opinion,
therefore it couldn't possibly be
"true" | SlipKnoT_KA |
| whatever | CollisionOfYourKiss |
I like how you feel the need to be openly
aloof about not careing | SlipKnoT_KA |
yeah i might have to revise my statement i re
listened to both cds again and self titled
was crazier and still the best | FattyMcfatfat18 |
I agree with SOAD's statement. very much
so. | Captain_Feces |
I think that artists make good music in spite
of drug use, not because of it. Moreover, and
artists drug use shouldn't influence the
listeners opinions. I like Systems music, I
don't care if they were on drugs. I just
dig the music. | wyldebass |
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