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I think we may have actually made a start in
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bravo, bravo.
now lets work on getting some posts on the
horrorpops, mad sin, nekromantix, 12 step
rebels, and demented are go forums.
support those lonely old psychobilly bands! | shadowbug26 |
Now how in the heck can I support those other
forums? It cost me like $25 to get the TA
cds and now you want me to rob a bank so I
can go get a couple of cds from another 10
psychobilly bands!!!
How do you get their music? Surely you
don't buy all those cds do you? Do you
share them with friends, like they burn one
for you from their copy or what? Downloads?
Or are you independantly wealthy and have
these bands flown into your private club to
perform just for you?
Tell me how you all get into so much music
without going broke!!! | GrayBeard |
I just go broke. Though, I've recently
discovered MySpace (several months after
everyone else did!), so I've taken to
downloading whatever music I can from there
as well. I was kind of averse to downloading
music without paying, but many of my
favourite artists have said that they
don't actually mind if people do that, so
I may start doing so... | spottyslippers |
share with friends?! ha! none of my friends
like psychobilly on their own. if they do,
its because i forced the cds on them. hehe.
no, i download. shhh. but if i really like
the band, i will buy their cd. i have
bought every tiger army cd...and i just
bought the new horrorpops cd the day it came
out (ps, its awsome!). plus, i have a job,
and work quite a bit, and dont have to pay a
lot of bills, so i do have extra spending
money. yep..and then theres christmas and
birthdays...haha.
but unless you live in cali or some other
area with a big psycho scene, your best way
to get psychobilly cds is to download or
order the cds from the internet. | shadowbug26 |
Well I don't do any downloading because I
use MSNTV and with my old system I can't.
I have to listen 2 music the old fashion way:
buy the cd.
So how about a suggestion on what should be
the next band I should listen to. Hopefully
it will be a band that both of you (Becca and
Chan) like so that you can both guide my
listening education!!!
So, what band do you two suggest? | GrayBeard |
um, if youre looking for good sounding
psychobilly, id go with Mad Sin's
"Survival of the Sickest" or
the Nekromantix's "Return of the
Loving Dead"
if youre just looking for some fun music, id
say go with the Horrorpops' "Hell
Yeah" or "Bring it On"
or anything by Lars Frederikson and the
Bastards
yeah...those are my suggestions for now. | shadowbug26 |
I'll back Becca up on the Nekromantix and
HorrorPops albums, particularly the
HorrorPops. Not being greatly into
psychobilly I haven't actually heard Mad
Sin, so I'll go and check that one out
myself.
I personally don't enjoy Lars Frederiksen
and co; the topics they sing about don't
really appeal to me. But it's all a matter
of opinion.
I'm sorry, I can't really add any more
to that guide. As I said, I'm just
discovering psychobilly myself, so I
haven't heard a great deal of the bands
that are around. | spottyslippers |
yeah...lars songs have some dumb topics, but
theyre fun. theyre not psycho or even
rockabilly at all. but theyre still great
rock.
yeah! yeah! get mad sin. good times..good
times... | shadowbug26 |
I am leaning towards Mad Sin right now since
I want to explore this psychobilly stuff some
more, and also because they seem to get Becca
REAL excited!!! Maybe TOO excited!!!
Did you check them out Chan? What did you
think?
The second is that Horrorpops band since they
have ben mentioned a lot to me recently.
Now has either of you heard of Bullets and
Octane and particularly their "The
Revelry" cd? This was recommended to
me this week. | GrayBeard |
hmm, havnt heard of that. i'll try to
remember to download them.
mad sing are great. and..and...their bass
has lights on it! its fricken awsome.
haha.
and one of the reasons ive been mentioning
the horrorpops a lot is because their new cd
just came out on the 13th, and im seeing them
on oct 8th. so..yeah..and plus, theyre good
:-) | shadowbug26 |
I've only heard one song from the new
Horrorpops' CD so far, and it was
brilliant. Their first album was great, too.
So much fun.
I have heard of Bullets and Octane, but
I've never heard their music. That'll
be another one to look up!
No, I forgot to see if I could find any Mad
Sin. I will do that as soon as I've
finished on iSound. | spottyslippers |
did you hear Where You Can't Follow? they
released that early...
that song is mad good..but you know what the
great thing is? its far from the best on
the cd. Im partial toward Walk Like A
Zombie, Crawl Straight Home, S.O.B, and
Freaks in Uniform. yeah, those are my
favorites for the week... | shadowbug26 |
Well I got the HorrorPops "Bring It
On" cd today and I AM HOOKED!! I just
spent a couple of hours on their iSound site
doing posts to get it reving up and did a
review of 2 songs and my new favorite female
singer Patricia Day!! | GrayBeard |
Yeah, it was "Where You Can't
Follow". I didn't know they'd
released it, it's very hard to get hold of
ANY info on them.
I want this album now! I'll have some
money by Friday, I might treat myself... | spottyslippers |
| aw, yay! 2 new horrorpops fans! | shadowbug26 |
Yay! Well, I kind of already was, I had
"Hell Yeah"...but yeah, I shall
now officially count myself as a fan! | spottyslippers |
Oh balls, I'll correct that. Replace
"had" with "heard all
of". My brain and my fingers aren't
properly connected today, I keep writing
something that's completely different to
what's in my head. | spottyslippers |
*had heard all of
Ha, got there in the end! | spottyslippers |
There r probably tons of fans of both TA and
HorrorPops on iSound but never make it to
their forums or they came and saw nothing
before and never came back.
Maybe with some postings here now the fans
will come.
I used to like the old BandHunt thingy that
had a "Fan Of" click with each
band that listed all the bands fans on
BandHunt. They didn't put that on iSound,
at least I cant fine it anywhere. | GrayBeard |
theres probably a few fans...but i was the
one that added Tiger Army and the horrorpops
to isound (as well as the nekromantix, mad
sin, and demented are go....isound was a
pretty psychobilly free place before i got
here :-P ) | shadowbug26 |
I couldn't get hold of any Mad Sin. I may
have to resort to downloading! | spottyslippers |
Bravo for you Becca for going thru the hassle
of adding bands. I did that two times and
that was enough for me!!!
Chan, you must live in a place even more
remote than WE do!! Even Yuma Arizona had a
Mad Sin cd.
Then again, maybe Yuma has way more hip
underground than I think. That would explain
why so many young ppl always come up to Sandi
and rave over her pink hair and cool
outfits.
Gee, and I thought it was a sleepy little
farm town. | GrayBeard |
ive never found a mad sin cd where i live...
i tell you, downloading, its a beautiful
thing. | shadowbug26 |
Swindon isn't actually sleepy at all,
it's a huge town that the idiot council
keep appealing to have turned into a city! I
think the UK as a whole is very behind on
music, particularly the underground stuff.
You can get hold of the more popular
underground albums such as AFI's earlier
works and the Hellcat compilations (at
extortionate prices, might I add), but
finding stuff for artists such as the
Nekromantix, Mad Sin and even the HorrorPops
is very difficult. | spottyslippers |
Wow!! I always thought that the UK lead the
way in alternative music!!
And u cant find Mad Sin stuff where you live
Becca!
Now I am beginning to think Yuma Arizona is
the "IN" place for alternative
music!!!! I would never have imagined!!!
Maybe Sandi & I should seriously start a club
for teens here to have some live music. I
wonder what such a club would be?
Any Ideas? Suggestions? | GrayBeard |
We do actually have good bands, but they just
re-hash the sounds of the orginal punk bands
in the '70s and '80's. Any newer
bands I listen to tend to be from foreign
countries (which includes the US for me, of
course!).
I reckon that live music clubs should do a
different genre per night: indie one night,
metal another etc. They should also be
resonably priced. My local club plays host
mostly to teenagers, though people of all
ages do go - the atmosphere is friendly
enough. But it's way overpriced: it used
to be free if you bought a drink, but since
then it's become popular and now
they've hugely raised the price.
The sad thing is, most people who go there
seem more intent on showing off how cool they
are or whatever than actually listen to the
music. Though to be fair, it's not big
enough: sometimes there's not enough room
to get near enough the stage to listen to the
music up close.
| spottyslippers |
theres a few small venues for teens and such
around where i live...but i think the closest
one is like, 40 minutes away.
my favorite one has one room for a stage and
dancing/viewing area, a room with pool
tables, and a room with a bunch of couches so
that when theres a band you dont want to see,
you can just hang out with friends. mostly
young, local bands play at the venues like
that, but occasionaly you get some bigger
ones (horrorpops, the unseen, the casualties,
lost city angels, big d and the kids table,
lucky boys confusion, bleed the dream, roger
merit and the disasters, street dogs, the
matches, etc).
yeah, if youve got a large population of
bored teenagers in yuma, i think you could
definitly get a lot of business with a little
venue | shadowbug26 |
I wish we had separate rooms. We're
crammed into one room at ours, so there is
not only no space for a proper moshpit
(bystanders often get dragged into it if they
want to or not) but also a lack of fresh air:
it's hell if you're a non-smoker. We
have two tiny stages, and one of them usually
doubles as a stand for the pool table. The
place could really do with expanding.
So, that would be a good tip. Make sure
it's big enough!
Is it easy just to set up a business like
that?! Well, it's a good idea, anyway. | spottyslippers |
OK, now for details details details. The
more the better
Now just to let u know, Sandi & I were
business developers helping businesses grow.
So this info that u both have will be useful
bigtime to us if we do this.
How many ppl does the club hold?
Is there a cover charge to enter and how
much?
Do they serve food and what kind at what
price?
What kind of beverages do they serve and how
much do they charge?
What kind of supervision is there in terms of
adults and security?
What kind of hours do these clubs have?
Is there a full range of ages at the club,
say 12 - 20 or more limited, say 16-18? Does
the club limit the ages?
Is there some kind of rules set, like a dress
code (boo) or no gang colors?
Do ppl show up even when there is no band
playing just to hang out?
U both mentioned pool tables, are there other
games to play such as pinball or video games?
Is there a charge for this?
Ok, that's a lot of questions. We have a
lot more but these will get the major ones
answered. | GrayBeard |
Hey, wouldn't that be something if we did
this, it got real big, and Becca set up her
tattoo & piercing parlor in the club and Chan
did all the band bookings and we started
popping these clubs all over the place, maybe
even all over the world, and become like the
McDonalds of teen clubs, and so influential
in the alt music industry that all kinds of
bands would come to tour our clubs and we
would be like the OZZFEST or WARPED tour
except everything would happen in our clubs
area and our clubs would generate so much
revenue that we could set up charities to
help fix the environment, help abused kids,
and fund some startup bands, and set up a
scholarship for kids to go to music school.
And then we would all be sitting there and
saying "Damn, you remember when we
started this idea back in '05 on the TA
forum!!!"
| GrayBeard |
Ah, fantasies. :)
Though, it wouldn't be good to become the
MacDonalds of music clubs. That place is
EVERYWHERE. You can go to the remotest little
country and there's a Maccy D's.
It's global domination. The alternative
music scene might not appreciate that! | spottyslippers |
But I do like the charities idea!
Okay, now some answers:
How many ppl does the club hold?
*More than my local does! 100-150? I don't
really know how many people show up to these
types of things, I'm rubbish at estimates.
I like small intimate clubs, just not ones
where there's no room to move!
Is there a cover charge to enter and how
much?
*How much is a Gilman card, $2-$5? Something
like that. Membership's a good idea, my
local costs £4-£6 every time you go and
it's totally unaffordable.
Do they serve food and what kind at what
price?
*I don't know...do you need food at a
club? Maybe snack food?
What kind of beverages do they serve and how
much do they charge?
*Alcoholic and non-alcoholic. No idea of
charge (you might be able to tell Maths
isn't my strong point!) Cheap enough so
everyone can afford it, being thirsty at a
club is not fun.
What kind of supervision is there in terms
of
adults and security?
*Ug! At ours, there is no security, only
people who work on the bar and stand at the
door taking money. They were serving
alcoholic drinks to minors before they were
caught by the police. I was there when it
happened, some drunk tried to steal the
policeman's hat from his head when he was
looking the other way!
What kind of hours do these clubs have?
*Mine is either 7-11PM or 8-11PM. Even though
they stamp your hand to show you've paid,
you can't get back in once you've gone
out for a breather. So you often have to stay
there the full 3-4 hours to get your
money's worth, which isn't the best.
Is there a full range of ages at the club,
say 12 - 20 or more limited, say 16-18? Does
the club limit the ages?
*I don't think there should be an age
limit on how old people there should be,
it's nice having a community of all ages.
Though I think some of the younger kids
shouldn't be allowed in, maybe those under
14 (I know that sounds young, but there are
14-year-olds who show up at ours when
they're not supposed to; it doesn't
cause any trouble). It might be cool to have
a night for younger kids every week, say
12-14 year olds...
Is there some kind of rules set, like a
dress
code (boo) or no gang colors?
*No! Boo indeed!
Do ppl show up even when there is no band
playing just to hang out?
*Not at ours, you can't get in. That would
be cool, though it would have to be free or
membership-based...
U both mentioned pool tables, are there
other
games to play such as pinball or video
games?
Is there a charge for this?
*Well, we can just use the pool table without
charge (I think...I don't know whether
I've ever actually used it!) Video games
could be good, but you would have to be
careful of vandalism. I think what Becca said
about having such things in a separate room
is a good idea. The stage should be in a
different place to give room to those who are
listening to the music/ moshing. It's more
comfortable for everyone that way.
Ta-da! | spottyslippers |
Wow!!! Chan u r remarkable!! So thorough!!!
and quick!!! So you must get all
"A" grades in ur classes!!!!
We can't believe that the clubs are only
open at night, and only when a band is
playing. We would have thought like from
lunch until midnight.
And when there is not a band playing we would
have thought they would just be playing bunch
of cds and hanging out. That seems like it
would be fun. You know, a place to go just
to listen to music and hang out and have a
coke or something and just chill for a while
with ur friends. | GrayBeard |
Chan, we are really surprised that some of
the clubs you mentioned served alcoholic
drinks and let ppl in under 21.
Here in the states, most clubs are like
really strict about NOT letting anyone under
the legal drinking age, which is 21 in most
states, into establishments that serve
alcohol, unless they are accompanied by their
parents or guardian.
Maybe the UK is less anal about drinking than
here.
We are pretty sure if we plan on letting
teens in there is no way the "powers
to be" would let alcohol be served. | GrayBeard |
I think the UK is a little more liberal when
it comes to drinking laws. The reason most
people go there is to hang out and get drunk;
the music gets kind of sidelined. But of
course, we can legally drink at 18 rather
than 21, so letting in 16-year-olds is not so
much of a problem because the age difference
isn't as large.
Yeah, it would be nice if the club opened for
a bit longer. Though I don't think the
building actually belongs to the people who
organise the alternative nights...they must
have some sort of contract set up with the
official owners, which may be why the club
only opens on nights. | spottyslippers |
two of the tiger army shows ive been to
served alchohol. but obviously they let
people under 21 in. | shadowbug26 |
Becca, where were the TA shows? In a bar
club, or did they have a set up bar in a
concert hall?
Obviously they were not openly serving
alcohol to minors, right?
Was there a lot of extra security or
officials there to police the alcohol & minor
thing, or was it kinda layed back, no big
deal? | GrayBeard |
um, they were both in NYC, one was at
Roseland Ballroom and one at BB Kings.
both had bars in them already.
i didnt see any extra security, mostly just
guys for the dumb crowd surfers...
but overall they were both pretty laid back.
especially the show at BB Kings (which was
the show that TA headlined. the one at
Roseland Social D headlined)
they didnt serve alcohol to anyone under
21...although i didnt really ask..im just
kinda assuming. the bottles of water at BB
kings were 4 fucking dollars though. total
rip off. | shadowbug26 |
Becca u lucky devil!!! NYC is the BEST!!!
If anyplace is laid back about clubbing it is
NYC!!!
I spent 2 days a month there for many many
years when the whole punk movement was coming
out. I would go from street corner to street
corner in Times Square at night and listen to
the punk bands playing on the street with
their single snare drum, and the bass and
guitar and vocals going thru a little
"pig" battery powered amp.
I would listen for a couple of songs, throw a
couple of bucks in their guitar case and move
on to the next band.
Do they still do that kind of street
performance stuff there? | GrayBeard |
ive never seen a punk band street
performance. theres always the saxaphone
and guitar players, and various other
instruments..but no punk bands...
none that ive seen anyway. | shadowbug26 |
Figures. Now punk bands are everywhere, they
have venues now.
Back in the 70s & early 80s that was not the
case, so they played the streets to get heard
I guess.
I wish now I would have kept track of all
their names as I am sure at least some of
them made it. | GrayBeard |
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